IVAN will finish Florida off

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IVAN will finish Florida off

Postby Gnosty » 08 Sep 2004, 08:22

Hurricane Ivan will be the third hurricane to hit Florida in a 30 day period. With all the military troops occupying the southern part of Florida - below the line from Tampa to Daytona Beach first called the MICKEY MOUSE LINE - another destructive hurricane will put this former state in open and complete military control (Martial Law) for the "good" of the citizens. Homeland Security will have its first major test of widespread control.

The MOUSE LINE is nothing new as it was established in the later 1960's by military strategists before the current FEMA ever became a Federal executive department. FEMA originally stood for Federal Emergency MILITARY ACTION. The scenario since day one [not long after the Cuban Missile Crisis] was that if "national security" warranted it, everything below the MOUSE LINE would be a military zone... a civilian "no-man's land."

What can be expected? When a FEMA truck showed up with ice in Southeastern Florida 2 nights ago, a clash took place between the local Chief of Police and FEMA officials. The townspeople had been waiting in line for up to 7 hours for ice at a FEMA emergency distribution point when the truck showed up, but FEMA officials insisted it be distributed the next morning. The local Police Chief said that if it wasn't distributed immediately, he would instruct his armed police officers to distribute it. FEMA caved in to avoid an open conflict.

But after IVAN hits Florida, FEMA will no longer cave in to any local civil authority as they will have open Federal "authority" from both the BUSH BROS to rule all local towns and counties below the MOUSE LINE. CAMP CHARLIE in Charlotte County has done this already whereby local EMS, EOS, and law enforcement must answer to FEMA-Homeland Security. Florida is currently designated as a Federal Disaster Area and the Federal Military already has full authority to "occupy" and rule over all local authorities.

If you don't think this amounts to anything, wait until IVAN hits. The roadblocks are already in place below the MOUSE LINE. People are already complaining about being denied access to their own property because they don't have sufficient ID.

What all of us who live here have experienced since August 13 is called a FEDERAL POLICE STATE. When IVAN hits between 9-11 and 9-13, the Federal Emergency Military Action will be in total open control.

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Postby Gnosty » 08 Sep 2004, 09:05

Hurricane Ivan Intermediate Advisory Number 24a

Statement as of 8:00 am AST on September 08, 2004

...Extremely dangerous Hurricane Ivan continues westward across the southeastern Caribbean Sea...

Maximum sustained winds are near 140 mph...220 km/hr...with higher gusts. This makes Ivan an extremely dangerous category 4 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane scale. Some Fluctuations in strength are possible during the next 24 hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 70 miles...110 km...
from the center... and tropical storm force winds extend outward up to 160 miles...260 km.

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Postby Gnosty » 08 Sep 2004, 10:08

ISLAND OF GRENADA FLATTENED

Wed, 8 Sep 2004 00:17:49 -0400
I just spoke to my uncle in Grenada. By some miracle he got his grilfriend cell to work. He says St.georges is completely flatened(destroyed). He says that he has never seen things so horrible. There is alot of flooding. He cannot even get in contact with family in the country. You can't even leave the shelter were you are because you can't move about. Phone lines are still down.

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ISSUED BY: Caribbean Disaster Emergency Response Agency (CDERA)
DATE: September 7, 2004
TIME: 7:30 pm

Barbados, Sep 07, 2004 (CDERA) – Grenada, a member state of the Caribbean Disaster Emergency Response Agency (CDERA) was severely impacted by Hurricane Ivan. Three people are confirmed dead.

The Capital St Georges suffered incalculable damage. The Emergency Operations Centre (EOC) and the residence of Prime Minister Dr Keith Mitchell were destroyed. The EOC is presently relocating and re-establishing communications.

http://stormcarib.com/reports/2004/grenada.shtml

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Postby bgataker » 08 Sep 2004, 11:18

Name: Hurricane IVAN
Date: 09-08-04
Updated: 10:55:34 AM
Next Update: 2:00 PM

Wind Central
Advisory (in MPH) Direction of Pressure
Number Date/Time Position Speed Gust Movement (MPH) (in mb) Status
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1 02/2100Z 9.7N/29.1W 30 40 W 20 1009 TropDp
2 03/0300Z 9.8N/29.4W 30 40 W 16 1009 TropDp
3 03/0900Z 10.0N/30.7W 40 50 W 16 1005 TropSt
4 03/1500Z 9.6N/32.9W 45 60 W 18 1003 TropSt
5 03/2100Z 8.9N/34.6W 50 65 WSW 20 1000 TropSt
6 04/0300Z 9.1N/35.8W 50 65 W 17 999 TropSt
7 04/0900Z 9.0N/37.4W 60 70 W 18 997 TropSt
8 04/1500Z 8.9N/38.9W 60 70 W 18 997 TropSt
9 04/2100Z 9.1N/40.8W 60 70 W 20 994 TropSt
10 05/0300Z 9.4N/42.2W 70 90 W 18 991 TropSt
11 05/0900Z 9.7N/44.3W 75 90 W 21 987 Hrricn
12 05/1500Z 9.9N/46.0W 85 105 W 21 980 Hrricn
13 05/1700Z 10.1N/46.6W 115 140 W 21 960 Hrricn
14 05/2100Z 10.4N/47.7W 125 155 WNW 21 950 Hrricn
14A 06/0000Z 10.6N/48.5W 135 160 WNW 21 948 Hrricn
15 06/0300Z 10.8N/49.4W 135 160 WNW 21 948 Hrricn
15A 06/0600Z 10.7N/50.6W 135 160 WNW 21 948 Hrricn
16 06/0900Z 10.8N/51.6W 125 155 W 23 951 Hrricn
16A 06/1200Z 11.1N/52.6W 125 155 W 23 951 Hrricn
17 06/1500Z 11.2N/53.4W 125 155 W 22 955 Hrricn
17A 06/1800Z 11.4N/54.4W 115 140 WNW 22 969 Hrricn
18 06/2100Z 11.6N/55.3W 105 125 WNW 22 968 Hrricn
18A 07/0000Z 11.3N/56.3W 105 125 W 24 964 Hrricn
19 07/0300Z 11.2N/57.2W 105 125 W 21 963 Hrricn
19A 07/0600Z 11.3N/57.8W 105 125 W 21 963 Hrricn
20 07/0900Z 11.4N/58.5W 110 130 W 18 965 Hrricn
20A 07/1200Z 11.6N/59.4W 115 140 W 18 963 Hrricn
21 07/1500Z 11.8N/60.2W 115 140 W 18 963 Hrricn
21A 07/1800Z 11.8N/60.2W 120 145 W 18 957 Hrricn
22 07/2100Z 12.0N/62.0W 120 145 W 18 956 Hrricn
22A 08/0000Z 12.0N/62.6W 135 160 W 18 950 Hrricn
23 08/0300Z 12.1N/63.3W 135 160 W 17 950 Hrricn
23A 08/0600Z 12.3N/64.1W 135 160 W 17 946 Hrricn
24 08/0900Z 12.4N/64.8W 140 165 W 16 946 Hrricn
24A 08/1200Z 12.5N/65.5W 140 165 W 16 955 Hrricn
25 08/1500Z 12.7N/66.2W 140 165 WNW 16 955 Hrricn

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphic ... 1453.shtml?

This is a very well organized storm and the sun spot count is still rising.

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Postby Gnosty » 08 Sep 2004, 20:00

WALL OF WATER

Posted By: Michael_Saint_Clair
http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/fo ... read=55193
Date: Wednesday, 8 September 2004, 1:05 p.m.

In Response To: UPDATE: SAME PROJECTED PATH AS CHARLEY *PIC* (lawgiver1)

Sept 13th is when energy moves into new moon in Virgo, sign that cleans house.

Greetings to Lawgiver1 [Gnosty here on the WVP], and to let readers know that Lawgiver1 [Gnosty] and I saw when discussing visions last summer 2003 a "wall of water" destryoying much of the East coast around W.Palm Beach and more, exiting at Tampa... and so it was, and indeed I witnessed the conversations, and so did a person in whose presence we taped my Lou Gentile radio show.

Just to say, IVAN is on its way, destination Gulf of Mexico, whichever way, watch also the Scalar traffic, the light sound, and be aware ALL who see this, that in the cleansing of these storms also lies a chance for a definitive renewal... Neptune in Aquarius, Uranus in Pisces, and across from that Jupiter Sun Mercury Moon in Virgo is an aspect we know by now can mirror storms at sea and over land.

I am glad I left in time, but wishing my friends in Florida well, and remember, one of these days, get a boat out there...

The map speaks for itself.

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Ivan

Postby Guest » 08 Sep 2004, 21:57

We are experiencing something odd here in southeastern Illinois. I just checked our Nexrad base reflectivity loop out of Paducah to see how our precip is. Instead of showing cloud cover, it shows a big blooming design directly proportionate right out of the radar site. I checked our other radars for the area, Lincoln Ill. and St. Louis: same thing, only different intensities (in fact, even when we've had severe, tree-crashing storms going over us like we had in May and July, I've never seen the hz intensity these sites are showing--deep violet purple.)

I read on another forum that there seem to be some pulses coming in the shape of "blooms" out west, and that they are possibly pushing against the approaching Ivan. Could this be what we're seeing in the midwest right now? We have seen these radar anomalies on Nexrad before, but just thought they were a glitch. Could the radars be sending out some kind of pulse? Check out Nexrad for those three areas and see if they aren't still doing it, or if we just caught something bizarre.

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Sun spots growing

Postby bgataker » 09 Sep 2004, 05:36

Ivan seems to be gaining strength as are the sun spots. Sunspot 671 is growing and the chance of a CME or flare is very possible. If this should occur it will super charge IVAN. Another sun spot is coming around in a few days, 663 is on the far side and also is growing...it seens the sun is not going to settle down for any breaks soon.

Ivan as of this morning has ramped up once more to 160 mph sustained winds and gusts up to 195 mph....Cat 5 is close at hand.

All we can do is once again pray that the sun spots dimish and that IVAN will start loosing strength as did Charlie and Frances.

As to the Radar Matrix, it wouldn't surprise me that the gov is throwing everything they have at these storms. The amount of damage and insurance claims is probably going to break the system...and it is too fragile to begin.

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Postby Gnosty » 09 Sep 2004, 06:56

HURRICANE IVAN ADVISORY NUMBER 28
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
5 AM AST THU SEP 09 2004

...IVAN REMAINS AN EXTREMELY DANGEROUS CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE AS IT HEADS IN THE GENERAL DIRECTION OF JAMAICA...

RECENT REPORTS FROM AN AIR FORCE RESERVE HURRICANE HUNTER AIRCRAFT INDICATE THAT MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS REMAIN AT LEAST 160 MPH... 255 KM/HR... WITH HIGHER GUSTS. THIS MAKES IVAN A RARE CATEGORY 5 HURRICANE ON THE SAFFIR-SIMPSON HURRICANE SCALE. ALTHOUGH SOME FLUCTUATIONS IN STRENGTH ARE LIKELY... IVAN COULD STILL INTENSIFY A LITTLE MORE THIS MORNING.

REPEATING THE 5 AM AST POSITION...13.9 N... 70.0 W. MOVEMENT TOWARD... WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 15 MPH. MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...160 MPH. MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE... 921 MB.

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Ivan the terrible

Postby Guest » 09 Sep 2004, 11:46

thank you bgataker for the comment. We have more time this morning to look at the Nexrad radars, and for the most part, they are doing the same thing. The "blooming" radars are: all in Illinois, St. Louis, Paducah, Tennessee, Mobile AL, Panama City & Pensacola, FL, Atlanta, and Lake Ponc. and SW Louisiana.
Not "blooming" but showing actual precip are Tampa FL and Pittsburg, PA.
Picking up both "blooms" (though not strong) AND precip are Jacksonville, Miami and Key West, FL.
Totally unable to access is the Puerto Rico radar.
We are trying to put out a paper this week but we will soon try to call our buddies in Paducah (they cover our area in SE Ill.) and see what the "official" explanation is for this "coloration" on the radars, ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

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Ivan Escalates

Postby bgataker » 09 Sep 2004, 16:41

“Ivan” Escalates; and a Slap in the Face to Environmentalist

by Mitch Battros - ECTV

As of this morning, “Ivan” has increased into a category 5 hurricane. In the last 30 hours, the Kp Index doubled from ‘2’ to ‘4’. (chart) This may have contributed to Ivan’s escalation, but it is two points short of what my yesterday’s prediction was based. This is good news, suggesting Ivan still has a chance of lessening. However, if the Kp Index were to reach ‘6’, and the GOES X-Ray Flux were to reach an M-Class flare, then I suggest Ivan will remain a category 5, and perhaps even higher. Yes, a small chance it could literally go off the chart. But let’s not get ahead of ourselves. I will monitor closely one-day-at-a-time.

Now to address the environmental zealots who had successfully conditioned you to believe ‘global warming’ is synonymous with fossil fuel and other human pollutants. Oh yes, you can ‘hang-your hat’ on the fact those who support the environmental definition of ‘global warming’ will be yelling at the top of their lungs with statements like “see what you pathetic humans are doing to our planet. You caused hurricane Ivan to attack us”. Oh yes, you might want to add a few whacked-out paranormal talk show host to this list. Of course they will tell you their information is correct, because it comes “straight from the aliens themselves”. As one freak show host tells us…”Oh yes, I’ve been anally probed by the best of them”. I guess some how this gives him a unique porthole to look through to see the truth… Yes I know I’m being mean, but sometimes you have to call it what it is. If I’m not the one to give perspective to some of the garbage being presented in cyber-land, then who is!

Now back to real science: NOAA scientist Chris Landsea along with NOAA meteorologist Stanley Goldenberg found distinct patterns of low-activity hurricane periods and high-activity periods, each of which endured for decades. These patterns, unrelated to the current concern over global warming, are caused by regular cycles of oceanic and atmospheric phenomena, such as unusually warm water in hurricane breeding grounds. That’s right…”cycles”. Cycles the Earth has seen many times before, and this is to say, even before humans walked the Earth.

One period of ``hyperactivity'' ended in 1970 and was followed by a 24-year lull. The new period of heightened activity began in 1995 and could last for another 10 to 30 years, according to their report, which was peer-reviewed and published in 2001 in the prestigious journal Science.

It is all driven by Ocean and Jet Stream Currents. And what drives this? It is the Earth’s magnetic field. And what drives the Earth’s magnetic field? It is the Sun! When the Sun emits charged particles into space by way of solar flares, cme’s, coronal holes, and various other geomagnetic storms, they hit our magnetic field which acts as our “cocoon” and buffets the blow pushing the charged particles to glance away from a direct hit. See: Earth-Sun Graphic Viewing this graphic will give you a good understanding of this symbiotic relationship.

When the Earth’s magnetic field shifts, as to protect us from the Sun’s thrust of charged solar rays, it also shifts Ocean and Jet Stream Currents. When these currents shift, it disturbs our weather patterns most often causing “extreme weather”. Further more, my more recent research suggest; this very same ‘cause – effect’ relationship has a direct effect on humans, and all living things. See: Solar-Human Effect 2 and Solar-Human Effect 3

In short, I have published a very simply equation which most everybody can follow…

Equation:

Sunspots => Solar Flares => Magnetic Field Shift => Shifting Ocean and Jet Stream Currents => Extreme Weather and Human Disruption (mitch battros)

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Sun spots holding at 85

Postby bgataker » 09 Sep 2004, 17:07

Geomagnetic Storms are happening and the sunspot activity could get explosive over the next couple of days, I would expect triple digits but I'm hoping for the sake of everyone in the path that they will go down.

FYI the activity that is going on with the Sun was supposed to be over about two years ago. This sun spot activity is unpresedented in our time...but not in the history of the world.

The current global warming predictions being spouted are all unclaimed. The warming that is taking place is happening in our whole solar system...yes every planet in our solar system has been heating up...and and far as I know, we are the only ones with fossil fuels...so go figure? If there were no cars, planes, heaters, forest fires, coal burning power plants, etc, it would not make any difference...we would still be having global warming.

This has resulted in many occurrences lately such as the rise in earthquakes, volcanism, ice cap and glacial melting and lastly...crazy weather.

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HURRICAN IVAN AND WEATHER WAR

Postby Guest » 14 Sep 2004, 15:28

HURRICANE IVAN IS QUITE UNIQUE, TO ME ANYWAY.

BECAUSE OF HURRICANE ENGINEERING AS STATED ON THIS WEB PAGE AND ALSO BY TOM BEARDEN, AND CONTROL BY HIGH PRESSURES AND LOW PRESSURES WE HAVE KNOWN OF FOR 10 YEARS OR MORE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THREE OBSERVATIONS ABOUT HURRICANE IVAN.

HURRICANE IVAN'S EYE MISSED JAMAMICA, EYE MISSED GRAND CAYMAN ISLAND, AND MOST OF ALL THREADED THE NEEDLE BY IT'S EYE PASSED RIGHT THROUGH THE OPENING BETWEEN THE YUCATAN AND WEST CUBA. IS THAT A MERICAL OR WHAT, OR A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF MANULIPATING "WAR WEATHER" NEW WORLD ORDER STYLE. THE WAR IS ON, JUST A NEW STYLE, BUT SURE DEATH FOR A GREAT MANY.
ALSO NOTE HOW THE HURRICANE MISSED THE LARGE CITIES, RIGHT TURN, LEFT TURN, STOP AND GO. THE NWO IS GETTING PRETTY GOOD (BAD) AT THE WEATHER ENGINEERING AND MANULIPATING, EH.

NOW, LET ME HEAR YOUR SIDE. MY EARS ARE BURNING ALREADY.

OLE COOKER, I KNOW THAT I KNOW

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HURRICANE IVAN

Postby Guest » 14 Sep 2004, 16:16

ABC POSES STORM STEERING QUESTION

Posted By: Daystar <Send E-Mail>
Date: Tuesday, 14 September 2004, 8:54 a.m.

This morning on ABC News there was a segment discussing storm steering. Different methods of steering or deflating hurricanes were elaborated on. White absorbant powder that forms a gel, once it has sucked the moisture out of the clouds, was actually shown by the company who produces it. Other geoengineering methods were also discussed.....and even included an atomic explosion to steer hurricanes. However, no mention was made of scalar weather warfare capabilities. We were told that none of these methods have been used yet so it would be too dangerous to try any of them at this point.

I believe this was an effort ,by those in charge, to diffuse any growing suspicions or rumors to the effect that Charlie, Frances and Ivan may have been artificially created and directed. This appears to be a classic example of revealing partial truths for the purpose of deception and control. Many who have been researching the issue of weather warfare realize there is no question as to whether storms can be created, deflated and manuvered.

In 1976 there was a U.N. Treaty, which Nations signed, promising not to affect each other using weather warfare. So...in other words, the technology was available then...to at least some degree. I can only imagine how techniques have "improved" since then.

This is reportedly a quote from Senator Pell of Rhode Island, from The Providence Journal Bulletin, 1975
"The U.S. and other world powers should sign a treaty to outlaw tampering with weather as an instrument of war. It may seem far fetched to think of using weather as a weapon but I'm convinced that the U.S. did, in fact, use rainmaking techniques as a weapon of war in Southeast Asia." "We need a treaty now to prevent such actions...before military leaders of the world start directing storms, manipulating climates and inducing earthquakes against the enemies. The basic idea of environmental warfare is simple.....if a nation can learn to trigger natural events it can inflict terrible damage on an enemy through rainfall, flooding, tidal waves, earthquakes and even climate changes that could devastate an enemy nation's agriculture."

THE OLE COOKER IS WATCHING THE WORLD, THE BEST HE CAN.

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HOW TO STEER A HURRICANE - BEARDEN

Postby Guest » 16 Sep 2004, 12:39

HOW TO STEER A HURRICANE - BEARDEN

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Date: Friday, 10 September 2004, 10:35 p.m.

In Response To: BREAKING: IVAN BEGINS TO POUND JAMAICA (PROZZAK)

How to Make Weather

"Engineering the weather is duck soup; they tested that over the U.S. in 1967, and entered upon continuing operations over North America on July 4, 1976 as a grim kind of KGB "Bicentennial Gift" to the United States. Here's how it is done with several interferometers.

"First, the interferometers can deliberately make "high pressure areas" (cool the air so it shrinks and its "footprint" pressure on the ground increases because its density increases) and "low pressure areas" (heat the air so that expands and its "footprint" pressure on the ground decreases because its density decreases). Well, if one makes the highs and lows where one wishes them, and judiciously and somewhat slowly moves them along a given path, these highs and lows will entrain the jet streams and thus "steer" the weather.

"So if you wish a very cold snap or attack, go up into Canada and start these actions to steer down some streams that bring some very frigid air. Establish other highs and lows judiciously to "block" or "slow" other jet streams and flows as desired. In this way, one can pull the "large cold air masses coming down from Canada" deep into the southern U.S. at will. They do it regularly. If you wish an ice storm, add an additional current of warm moist air you bring up (steer up by using artificial highs and lows) from the ocean. Where they meet, you will get freezing rain, then sleet, then severe icing accumulating. This type of attack does rather large damage to the struck area."

http://www.earthchangestv.com/ufo/0209gandor.htm

Whole websites have now sprung up showing weather radar anomalies which may well be indications of scalar weather engineering. One list of over 500 images is here Cheniere has its own collection here .

Here is an animated anomaly with cloud formation.

In another section at Cheniere are many photos of cloud anomalies which reveal the underlying grid along which the clouds are forming or un-forming. Bearden relates a startling incident in these ongoing "weather wars."

"During the spring of 1986, abnormally strong Soviet weather engineering occurred over the U. S., causing a drastic drought in the southeastern U.S. This drought was broken by a colleague who used an extremely powerful scalar EM device to redirect jetstreams. A most unusual and unique signature of the "blocking" against the Soviet scalar EM actions resulted: Two huge circulations developed in the atmosphere, clearly showed as two adjacent giant "holes" in the swirling cloud cover over the middle and eastern U.S.

"Between these two giant holes, the cloud circulations formed a stream of clouds, moving to the south, looking very: much like a giant vertical "bar" of a huge "Y-shaped" cloud flow.* Several national weathermen commented on this unusual pattern, which had not been observed before. The pattern continued, day after day, as the blocking continued."

OLE COOKER STILL LOOKING AND PRAYING, PLEASE HELP US IN THIS WEATHER WAR THAT IS UPON US

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DRIVE THE MONSTER RIGHT THROUGH THE GATE

Postby Guest » 16 Sep 2004, 15:23

HURRICANE IVAN WAS GUIDED BY MAN (NWO) AND LIKE BIG SHIP RIGHT THROUGH THE OPENING BETWEEN THE YUCANTAN AND WEST CUBA.

AS I SAID EARLIER, MISSED THE BIG CITIES AND HIT A SMALL TOWN RIGHT AS EXPECTED.

DRIVE THAT MONSTER RIGHT THROUGH THE GATE, HI CRACK THE WHIP, RAWHIDE !!! ROLL EM, ROLL EM, RAW HIDE !!!!

WEATHER WAR IS HERE TO STAY.
WHAT IS NEXT, EARTHQUACKES AT THE WILL OF NWO ?
OR IS WESTERN FIRES, USING H.A.A.R.P. AND OTHER THINGS TO HEAT LAND AND PARTS OF OCEANS ?
OR WILL BE TOLD IT WAS A QUIK OF NATURE, SURRREE.

WE ARE UNDER ATTACK, RIGHT NOW, THANKS TO NWO.

WHAT WILL BE NEXT, COULD IT BE BIOLOGICAL WARFARE, NWO IS GOOD (BAD) AT THAT ALSO.

OLE COOKER, GOT THAT ONE RIGHT


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